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a bit about the marines - don't let the bastards grind you down.
taumeson
taumeson
a bit about the marines
so here's the thing. marines are really into 'esprit de corps', which the marines take to mean a real combat brotherhood. it's based around the idea that once you put your life on the line for somebody, and they in turn put their life on the line for you, you're linked. they instill this in boot camp and OCS, and it's backed up by firefights and surviving an IED. it's the biggest reason marines are all 'oorah' and 'semper fi' and have a shitload of bumper stickers.

i never had it. i wanted to be a marine, but i didn't want to be a brother to the idiots i had to deal with on a daily basis. it really affected my performance because i was rarely motivated.

so:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/05/2008-11-05_brooklyn_marine_sergeant__wife_tortured_-2.html

fuckers. what. the. shit.
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aarskringspier From: aarskringspier Date: November 7th, 2008 12:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

So

So this is somehow an indictment of the entire Marine Corp? Their all murderous, uneducated idiots because 4 of them decided to murder two people?
taumeson From: taumeson Date: November 7th, 2008 01:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

of course not.

and it's marine CORPS.

but what happens is that there are (more than) 4 murderous uneducated idiots, and then there are the hundreds who would have done it because it's miscegenation, and then there are the thousands that wouldn't have done it, but are still racist.

etc. no body politic is perfect, but it was more than i could deal with.
aarskringspier From: aarskringspier Date: November 7th, 2008 01:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

First off my next comment is really directed at you, so dont take it personal.

After this election if I hear racist used one more time Im going to freak. What about the white people murdered by minorities? Is that just pay back or are they all racically motivated? How about when a black gangbanger kills another is that black racism against themselves? A bunch of morons murdered two people, if they did it because they were a mixed couple that is shit. But murders happen everyday, it doesnt mean that all white people are murderous ass holes or all black people are gangbanging drug dealers waiting to shoot us with gats. People do bad things no matter the race, no matter their group affiliation because theyre bad. These dick wads would have commited murder sooner or later wether they ever joined the Marines or were school crossing guards because theyre dick wads.
taumeson From: taumeson Date: November 7th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

i personally believe this is a racially motivated killing because it's a white guy marrying a black chick, but i could be wrong. anyway, it spoke directly to my experiences.

there are plenty of people who dislike others because of the color of the skin. when that is the motivation for positive or negative behavior, it's racism, and that's the specific thing i'm talking about. i wasn't even trying to be general, but very specific about the numbers of marines who sympathize with violence against blacks (not that they would necessarily do it).

and we're not even getting into racism against middle-easterns.

so, murder is murder, and when it crosses color lines racism is a possible motivation. and not a common one, but it exists. to pretend it doesn't (or to not leave an allowance for it) is misleading.

finally, if those dick wads were murdering crossing guards they wouldn't give the Corps a bad name.
aarskringspier From: aarskringspier Date: November 7th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

I dont think it gives the Marines a bad name because 4 ass holes are murders. If a plumber murders someone it doesnt give every plumber a bad name. I could care less if they were Marines or Police Officers, theyre murders thats it.

Now send em to Texas where theyre sure to DIE!
taumeson From: taumeson Date: November 7th, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/4_Marines_Charged_in_Murder_of_Marine_Wife.html

The killers were four black men. I stand by my charge of racism.
thewretchedpoet From: thewretchedpoet Date: November 9th, 2008 01:14 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: So

This is all some fucked up shit. It makes me sick at my stomach to read about. :(
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